* SynrG notes that the number of configuration questions to answer in\nsendmail is NON-TRIVIAL
* james would be more impressed if netgod's magic powers could stop the\nsplits in the first place... * netgod notes debian developers are notoriously hard to impress
<sel> need help: my first packet to my provider gets lost :-( <netgod> sel:  dont send the first one, start with #2
<james> abuse me.  I'm so lame I sent a bug report to\ndebian-devel-changes
I never thought that I'd see the day where Netscape is free software and X11 is proprietary.  We live in interesting times.\n-- Matt Kimball <mkimball@xmission.com>
<JHM> Being overloaded is the sign of a true Debian maintainer.
<Overfiend> partycle: I seriously do need a vacation from this package.\nI actually had a DREAM about introducing a stupid new bug\ninto xbase-preinst last night.  That's a Bad Sign.
Writing non-free software is not an ethically legitimate activity, so if people who do this run into trouble, that's good!  All businesses based on non-free software ought to fail, and the sooner the better.\n-- Richard Stallman
Microsoft DNS service terminates abnormally when it recieves a response to a DNS query that was never made.  Fix Information: Run your DNS service on a different platform.\n-- BugTraq
* dpkg hands stu a huge glass of vbeer * Joey takes the beer from stu, you're too young ;) * Cylord takes the beer from Joey, you're too drunk. * Cylord gives the beer to muggles.
"This is the element_data structure for elements whose *element_type = FORM_TYPE_SELECT_ONE, FORM_TYPE_SELECT_MULT. */ /* * nesting deeper and deeper, harder and harder, go, go, oh, OH, OHHHHH!! * Sorry, got carried away there. */ struct lo_FormElementOptionData_struct."\n-- Mozilla source code
While the year 2000 (y2k) problem is not an issue for us, all Linux implementations will impacted by the year 2038 (y2.038k) issue. The Debian Project is committed to working with the industry on this issue and we will have our full plans and strategy posted by the first quarter of 2020.
I'm sorry if the following sounds combative and excessively personal, but that's my general style.        -- Ian Jackson
"my biggest problem with RH (and especially RH contrib packages) is that they DON'T have anything like our policy.  That's one of the main reasons why their packages are so crappy and broken.  Debian has the teamwork side of building a distribution down to a fine art."
"slackware users don't matter. in my experience, slackware users are either clueless newbies who will have trouble even with tar, or they are rabid do-it-yourselfers who wouldn't install someone else's pre-compiled binary even if they were paid to do it."
<xinkeT> "Lord grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot\nchange, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom\nto hide the bodies of the people I had to kill because they\npissed me off."
* dark has changed the topic on channel #debian to: Later tonight: After\nmonths of careful refrigeration, Debian 2.0 is finally cool enough to\nrelease.
I sat laughing snidely into my notebook until they showed me a PC running Linux....  And did this PC choke?  Did it stutter?  Did it, even once, say that this program has performed an illegal operation and must be shut down?  No. And this is just on the client.\n-- LAN Times
"I think that most debian developers are rather "strong willed" people with a great degree of understanding and a high level of passion for what they perceive as important in development of the debian system."\n--Bill Leach
"Actually, the only distribution of Linux I've ever used that passed the rootshell test out of the box (hit rootshell at the time the dist is released and see if you can break the OS with scripts from there) is Debian."\n-- seen on the Linux security-audit mailing list
* Culus fears perl - the language with optional errors
<stu> you should be afraid to use KDE because RMS might come to your\nhouse and cleave your monitor with an axe or something :)
"and i actually like debian 2.0 that much i completely revamped the default config of the linux systems our company sells and reinstalled any of the linux systems in the office and here at home.."
<Davide> how bout a policy policing policy with a policy for changing the\npolice policing policy
<dark> "Let's form the Linux Standard Linux Standardization Association\nBoard. The purpose of this board will be to standardize Linux\nStandardization Organizations."
<Overfiend> Don't come crying to me about your "30 minute compiles"!!  I\nhave to build X uphill both ways!  In the snow!  With bare\nfeet! And we didn't have compilers!  We had to translate the\nC code to mnemonics OURSELVES! <Overfiend> And I was 18 before we even had assemblers!
"What is striking, however, is the general layout and integration of the system.  Debian is a truly elegant Linux distribution; great care has been taken in the preparation of packages and their placement within the system.  The sheer number of packages available is also impressive...."
Debian Linux is a solid, comprehensive product, and a genuine pleasure to use.  It is also great to become involved with the Debian collective, whose friendliness and spirit recalls the early days of the Internet and its sense of openness and global cooperation.
<Flood> can I write a unix-like kernel in perl?
<Flood> netgod: I also have a "Evil Inside" T-shirt (w/ Intel logo).. on\nthe back it states: "When the rapture comes, will you have root?"
<zarkov> "NT 5.0.  All the bugs and ten times the code size!"
<Culus> there is 150 meg in the /tmp dir! DEAR LORD
<toor> netgod: what do you have in your kernel??? The compiled source for\ndriving a space shuttle??? <Spoo> time to make a zip drive your floppy drive then. if the kernel\ndoesn fit on that, the kernel is an AI
Now I can finally explain to everyone why I do this.  I just got $7 worth of free stuff for working on Debian !
<ultima> netgod: My calculator has more registers than the x86, and\n-thats- sad
* boren tosses matlab across the room and hopes it breaks into a number\naproaching infinite peices
World Domination, of course.  And scantily clad females.  Who cares if its twenty below?        -- Linus Torvalds
<Flav> Win 98 Psychic edition: We'll tell you where you're going tomorrow
<zpx> it's amazing how "not-broken" debian is compared to slack and rh
<dark> "Hey, I'm from this project called Debian... have you heard of it?\nYour name seems to be on a bunch of our stuff."
"In the event of a percieved failing of the project leadership #debian is empowered to take drastic and descisive action to correct the failing, including by not limited to expelling officials, apointing new officials and generally abusing power"\n-- proposed amendment to Debian Constitution
<Diziet> Fuck, I can't compile the damn thing and I wrote it !
<Overfiend> we're calling 2.2 _POTATO_??
<SirDibos> does Johnie Ingram hang out here on IRC?
* Twilight1 will have to hang his Mozilla beanie dinosaur in effigy if\nNetscape sells-out to Alot Of Losers..
<lux> if macOS is for the computer illiterate, then windoze is for the\ncomputer masochists
<dark> Culus: Building a five-meter-high replica of the Empire State\nBuilding with paperclips is impressive.  Doing it blindfolded is\neleet.
I can just see it now: nomination-terrorism ;-)\n-- Manoj haha!  i nominate manoj. -- seeS
<JHM> Somehow I have more respect for 14 year old Debian developers than\n14 year old Certified Microsoft Serfs.
<Culus> Ben: Do you solumly swear to read you debian email once a day and\ndo not permit people to think you are MIA? <Ben> Culus: i do so swear
"I wonder if this is the first constitution in the history of mankind where you have to calculate a square root to determine if a motion passes.  :-)"\n-- Seen on Slashdot
This is the solution to Debian's problem .. and since the only real way to create more relatives of developers is to have children, we need more sex!  It's a long term investment ... it's the work itself that is satisfying!\n-- Craig Brozefsky
<marcus> dunham: You know how real numbers are constructed from rational\nnumbers by equivalence classes of convergent sequences? <dunham> marcus: yes.
<Culus> "Hello?"  "Hi baybee"  "Are you Johnie Ingram?"  "For you I'll be\nanyone" "Ermm.. Do you sell slink CD's?" "I love slinkies"
<Overfiend> xhost +localhost should only be done by people who would\npaint their hostname and root password on an interstate\noverpass.
<JHM> AIX - the Unix from the universe where Spock has a beard.
<Knghtbrd> Studies prove that research causes cancer in 43% of laboratory\nrats <CQ> knghtbrd- yeah, but 78% of those statistics are off by 52%...
<stu> apt: !bugs <apt> !bugs are stupid <dpkg> apt: are stupid?  what's that? <apt> dpkg: i don't know <dpkg> apt: Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder... <apt> i already had it that way, dpkg.
<muggles> i'm trying to convince some netcom admins i know to convert\nto Debian from RH, netgod, but they are DAMN stubborn <muggles> why RH users so damned hard headed? <Espy> it's the hat
<doogie> Debian - All the power, without the silly hat.
How many months are we going to be behind them [Redhat] with a glibc release?"\n-- Jim Pick, 8 months before Debian 2.0 is finally released
The purpose of having mailing lists rather than having newsgroups is to place a barrier to entry which protects the lists and their users from invasion by the general uneducated hordes.\n-- Ian Jackson
Most of us feel that marketing types are like a dangerous weapon - keep 'em unloaded and locked up in a cupboard, and only bring them out when you need them to do a job.\n-- Craig Sanders
<BenC> cerb: we subscribed you to debian-fight as the moderator <BenC> cerb: list rules are, 1) no nice emails, 2) no apologies
<Teknix> our local telco has admitted that someone "backed into a\nbutton on a switch" and took the entire ATM network down <netgod> hopefully now routers are designed better, so the "network\noff" swtich is on the back
<Overfiend> Thunder-: when you get { MessagesLikeThisFromYourHardDrive } <Overfiend> Thunder-: it either means { TheDriverIsScrewy } <Overfiend> or <Overfiend> { YourDriveIsFlakingOut BackUpYourDataBeforeIt'sTooLate\nPrayToGod }
<apt> it has been said that redhat is the thing Marc Ewing wears on\nhis head.
<MrCurious> by the power of greyskull <MrCurious> someone tell me the ban to place <Sopwith> mrcurious: *.debian.org, *.novare.net <philX> *.debian.org.  that's awesome.\n-- Seen on LinuxNet #linux
"What does this tell me?  That if Microsoft were the last software company left in the world, 13% of the US population would be scouring garage sales & Goodwill for old TRS-80s, CPM machines & Apple ]['s before they would buy Microsoft. That's not exactly a ringing endorsement."\n-- Seen on Slashdot
"Bruce McKinney, author of of Hardcore Visual Basic, has announced that he's fed up with VB and won't be writing a 3rd edition of his book.  The best quote is at the end: 'I don't need a language designed by a focus group'."
<Cylord> Would it be acceptable to debian policy if we inserted a crontab\nby default into potato that emailed bill.gates@microsoft.com\nevery morning with an email that read, "Don't worry, linux is a\nfad..."
* Overfiend ponders doing an NMU of asclock, in which he simply changes\nthe extended description to "If you bend over and put your head between\nyour legs, you can read the time off your assclock." <doogie> Overfiend: go to bed.
<Reed> It is important to note that the primary reason the Roman Empire\nfail is that they had no concept of zero... thus they could not\ntest the success or failure of their C programs.
Since when has the purpose of debian been to appease the interests of the mass of unskilled consumers?        -- Steve Shorter
<joeyh> netgod: er, are these 2.2.0 packages 2.0.0pre9 or do you have a\ndirect line with the gods? <netgod> joeyh: i have the direct line
<_Anarchy_> Argh.. who's handing out the paper bags  8)
<awkward> anyone around? <Flav> no, we're all irregular polygons
<Culus> OH MY GOD NOT A RANDOM QUOTE GENERATOR <netgod> surely you didnt think that was static? how lame would that be? :-)
Mere nonexistence is a feeble excuse for declaring a thing unseeable. You *can* see dragons.  You just have to look in the right direction.\n-- John Hasler
<Chalky> gcc is the best compressor ever ported to linux. it can turn\n12MB of kernel source (and that's .debbed) into a 500k kernel
<Manoj> I *like* the chicken
[   ]  DOGBERT\n[ 2 ]  RICHARD STALLMAN\n[ 3 ]  BUFFY SUMMERS\n[ 1 ]  MANOJ SRIVASTAVA\n[ 4 ]  NONE of the above\n-- Debian Project Leader 1999 ballot
<Oryn> anyone know if there is a version of dpkg for redhat?
acme-cannon (3.1415) unstable; urgency=low\n* Added safety to prevent operator dismemberment, closes: bug #98765,\nbug #98713, #98714.\n* Added manpage. closes: #98725.\n-- Wile E. Coyote <genius@debian.org>  Sun, 31 Jan 1999 07:49:57 -0600
!netgod:*! time flies when youre using linux !doogie:*! yeah, infinite loops in 5 seconds. !Teknix:*! has anyone re-tested that with 2.2.x ? !netgod:*! yeah, 4 seconds now
* dark greets liw with a small yellow frog. * liw kisses the frog and watches it transform to a beautiful nerd\ngirl, takes her out to ice cream, and lives happily forever after\nwith her <dark> liw: Umm it's too late to have the frog back?
* Culus thinks we should go to trade shows and see how many people we\ncan kill by throwing debian cds at them
<dark> "Yes, your honour, I have RSA encryption code tattood on my\npenis.  Shall I show the jury?"
<Knghtbrd> you people are all insane. <Joey> knight: sure, that's why we work on Debian. <JHM> Knghtbrd: get in touch with your inner nutcase.
<Culus> Saens demonstrates no less than 3 tcp/ip bugs in 2.2.3
<Mercury> alexsh: Be /VERY/ cairful, you could, if your unlucky, fry your\nmotherboards.. <Knghtbrd> Mercury - sounds like fun
<rcw> dark: caldera? <Knghtbrd> rcw - that's not a distribution, it's a curse <rcw> Knghtbrd: it's a cursed distribution
Software is like sex, it's better when it's free.     -- Linus Torvalds
<dark> Knghtbrd: We have lots of whatevers. <Knghtbrd> dark - In Debian?  Hell yeah we do!
I did it just to piss you off.  :-P\n-- Branden Robinson in a message to debian-devel
The software required Win95 or better, so I installed Linux.
10) there is no 10, but it sounded like a nice number :)\n-- Wichert Akkerman
Eric Raymond:  I want to live in a world where software doesn't suck. Richard Stallman:  Any software that isn't free sucks. Linus Torvalds:  I'm interested in free beer. Richard Stallman:  That's okay, as long as I don't have to drink it.  I\ndon't like beer.\n-- LinuxWorld Expo panel, 4 March 1999
I'm not a level-headed person...        -- Bruce Perens
Personally, I don't often talk about social good because when I hear other people talk about social good, that's when I reach for my revolver.\n-- Eric Raymond
If we want something nice to get born in nine months, then sex has to happen.  We want to have the kind of sex that is acceptable and fun for both people, not the kind where someone is getting screwed. Let's get some cross fertilization, but not someone getting screwed.\n-- Larry Wall
We all know Linux is great... it does infinite loops in 5 seconds.\n-- Linus Torvalds
YES! YES! YES! Oh, YES! (ooops, I sound like Meg Ryan ;-)\n-- Ian Nandhra
<Knghtbrd> If I start writing essays about Free Software for slashdot,\nplease shoot me.
<RoboHak> hmm, lunch does sound like a good idea <Knghtbrd> would taste like a good idea too
Every company complaining about Microsoft's business practices is simply a rose bush. They look lovely and smell nice. Once a lucky company dethrones Microsoft they will shed their petals to expose the thorns underneath. A thorn by any other name would hurt as much.
Something must be Done This is Something Therefore, This must be Done\n-- The Thatcherite Syllogism
<Knghtbrd> xtifr - beware of james when he's off his medication  =>
Indifference will certainly be the downfall of mankind, but who cares?
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity.\n-- Robert A. Heinlein
<wc> red dye causes cancer, haven't you heard? (; <Knghtbrd> fucking everything causes cancer, haven't you heard? <Knghtbrd> => <archon> no, that causes aids
Gold, n.|A soft malleable metal relatively scarce in distribution.  It is mined deep in the earth by poor men who then give it to rich men who immediately bury it back in the earth in great prisons, although gold hasn't done anything to them.\n-- Mike Harding, "The Armchair Anarchist's Almanac"
* lilo hereby declares OPN a virtual pain in the ass :)
"They are both businesses - if you have given them enough money, I'm sure they'll do whatever the hell you ask:->"\n-- David Welton
"You have the right not to be an asshole.  If you give up that right everything you say and do in here will be held against you. If you cannot afford to stop being an asshole then someone will be appointed to kick yours outta here."\n-- Your rights as an irc addict
* Simunye is so happy she has her mothers gene's <Dellaran> you better give them back before she misses them!
<Iambe> conning the most intellegent people on the planet is not easy
California, n.|From Latin "calor", meaning "heat" (as in English "calorie" or Spanish "caliente"); and "fornia'" for "sexual intercourse" or "fornication." Hence: Tierra de California, "the land of hot sex."\n-- Ed Moran
* Caytln slaps Lisa <Caytln> catfight :P <LisaHere> Watch it girl, I like that. <LisaHere> :) <Caytln> figures :D
<MFGolfBal> rit/ara:  There's something really demented about UNIX\nunderwear...
