<tausq> Q. What's the difference between Batman and Bill Gates? <tausq> A. When Batman fought the Penguin, he won.
At some point, bits have to go into packets and routers need to make decisions on them. Changes at that level is what I want to hear about, not strategic company relationships.\n-- John Carmack
We reject: kings, presidents, and voting. We believe in: rough consensus and working code.\n-- Dave Clark
<Knghtbrd> QF is going to get zipfile support today <Coderjoe> heh... infozip? <Knghtbrd> If I'm lucky yes <Deek> knghtbrd: You're kidding, right? ;) * Deek takes away Knghtbrd's crack pipe. ;)
<Deek> change all cvar->value = X to use Cvar_Set() <theoddone33> that didn't happen in oldtree <Deek> Actually, it did. <Knghtbrd> yeah - two weeks later.
=== This letter is the Honor System Virus ==== If you are running a Macintosh, OS/2, Unix, or Linux computer, please randomly delete several files from your hard disk drive and forward this message to everyone you know. ==============================================
* shortc wants to get in one of knghtbrd's sigs one of these days.
<Dr^Nick> SGI_Multitexture is bad voodoo now <Dr^Nick> ARB is good voodoo <witten> no, voodoo rush is bad voodoo :)
99 little bugs in the code, 99 bugs in the code,\nfix one bug, compile it again...\n101 little bugs in the code....
Hmm...  Which would do a better job at driving physicists crazy?  Travel faster than light, or a floating-point boolean value?\n-- Michael Mol
<calc> knghtbrd: gnome 2.0 will be out in a few months, not sure how it\nwill compare to kde 2.0 though <knghtbrd> calc: Just as bloated, just as buggy, and every Gnome 2 app\nwill depend on 30 libraries. <Slimer> knghtbrd: so what changes from 1.0 ?
<Ze0> so, how's everything in the world of Quack? <LordHavoc> just ducky <Ze0> excellent, fried duck is mighty fine tasty.
<FrikaC> I should probably reboot... <FrikaC> ok brb <FrikaC> So, what apart form avoiding virii, memory leaks, and rampant\ncrashing does Linux reallhy offer :) <LordHavoc> reliable multitasking?
<tausq>         if (cb) ((cb->obj)->*(cb->ui_func))(); <knghtbrd> tausq: who the HELL wrote that ? <tausq> me :) * knghtbrd flogs tausq
<Deek> Exactly how much of a PITA is this in C? <Knghtbrd> It's written in C++. <Deek> Hence my question. <Knghtbrd> I could do something like it in C.  Anyone who saw the results\nwould think I was either a genius or out of my fucking mind.\nThey'd be right on either count.
<Knghtbrd> glDisable (GL_BUGS); <Endy> heh <Endy> Is that in 1.2? :)
<Mercury> knghtbrd: Eww, find a better name, the movie sucked.. <G> <Knghtbrd> Mercury: The engine is better than the movie
<LackOfKan> What are 'bots'? <``Erik> rsg is a bot, not a human, not a human usable client, just a bot. <``Erik> about the same as a quake bot, except irc bots are (usually)\nbuilt to help, not shoot your ass full of holes
if (me != you)        // FIXME: probably always true, delete?\nfor (n = 0; n < who_knows_what; n++) {\nanswer = DoSomething (withthis[n]);\nif (answer == foobar) {\nGetLost (n);\nbreak;\n}\n}
<Knghtbrd> Yorick: no problem with indexed color palettes for images, as\nlong as you can pick the palette <Yorick> Obviously the people creating quake were colour-blind but that\ndoesn't mean you have to be
<cesarb> Damn, every time I spawn, qf-client-x11 locks hard <Zoid> Don't die? <Knghtbrd> good incentive.
Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth?
<rebelpacket> hey, quick question, is there any way to speed up the\nperformance of uquake-x11? <Deek> rebelpacket: If you want to accelerate it, throw it harder.
<netgod> you know <netgod> its really sad when the internic itself cant configure DNS\nservers right <netgod> it just doesnt get any more pathetic than that
"I have a bone to pick, and a few to break."\n-- Anonymous
Z.O.I.D.: Zombie Optimized for Infiltration and Destruction
<Deek> Yes, America is a country based on how pissed-off a group of taxed\npeople can get. <Deek> We exist as a country because we're cheap.
<Oskuro> Overfiend: many patches on top of 4.0.1 already? <Overfiend> Oskuro: a few <Overfiend> only 152 megs
<joeyh> oh my, it's a UP P III. <doogie> dos it. * joeyh runs dselect <Overfiend> that ought to be sufficient :)
<barneyfu> knghtbrd: crap, SDL sure makes DGA a helluva alot easier too\ndoesn't it? :) <knghtbrd> barneyfu: what DGA? <barneyfu> mouse dga <knghtbrd> barneyfu: (does that answer your question?) <barneyfu> Hahahahaha YEAH! :)
A subversive is anyone who can out-argue their government.
We must know, we will know.\n-- David Hilbert
<Knghtbrd> Internet censorship.  Because your children need to be\nprotected from naked women, medical procedures, diverse\ncultures, and violent video games. <knghtbrd> (but information on building bombs, stealing cable, and\nmanufacturing drugs is okay...)
A friend of mine has a barcode on his arm. He rings up as a $.35 pack of JuicyFruit.\n-- Seen on Slashdot
<NullC> I like the seed code for computing masking curves. <NullC> I've never seen code that made be want to drink before that...
$you = new YOU; honk() if $you->love(perl)\n-- Seen on Slashdot
<cj> no!  problems in M$ software? <cj> "Thoroughly bugtested" * Dabb grins. <LordHavoc> rewrite that as 'Thoroughly buginfested'
<doogie> dpkg has bugs?  no way!
"Debian: no hats or reptiles were harmed in the making of this distribution= ."\n-- Paul Slootman
* knghtbrd ponders how to scare the living shit out of 87 people at once.. <knghtbrd> AHH!  I can do it in 3 words!: <knghtbrd> Microsoft Visual COBOL.
* athener calls Amnesty International House of Pancakes
<elmo> unclean: err, the admin team do not control the archive, that's the\nftp cabal <elmo> get your cabals right, damn it :-P
<BenC> CosmicRay: you complete me <BenC> err... <CosmicRay> heh * BenC goes back to coding * elmo looks at benc <elmo> something we should know about you and cosmicray, Ben? :)
Change the Social Contract?  BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.\n-- Branden Robinson
All good ideas look like bad ideas to those who are losers.\n-- Dilbert
RFC 882 put the dot in .com, not Sun Microsystems\n-- Seen on Slashdot
* joeyh_ wonders if linux is supposed to lock up when you ask 100\nprocesses to cat the entire cd drive
<pretzelgod> knghtbrd: Quake should support xray vision, dammit <knghtbrd> pretzelgod: ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/quake/partial_conversions/\nxrated/i_am_old_enough_to_look_at_this <knghtbrd> ... you asked ... <CosmicRay> haha, that is a real directory
<Knghtbrd> I SNEAK TO BUN <Knghtbrd> HELP ME FOR TO QUACK <Venom> kb: what the hell are you talking about? <Knghtbrd> bwahahaha..  It's a long story.
<miguel> `You have been unsubscribed from the high energy personal\nprotection devices mailing list' <miguel> I dont remember getting into the mailing list
<Myth> I'm getting a connection refused when connecting to port 25, anyone\nknow where the damn log is? <aj> Myth: /var/log/damn.log? * aj wonders what that'd look like <aj> Dec 18 05:32:30 blae smtpd[123]: DAMN IT ALL TO HELL!!
<doogie_> linux takes shit and turns it into something useful. <doogie_> windows takes something useful and turns it into shit
* weasel wonders how stupid one has to be to spam alt.anonymous.messages <knghtbrd> weasel: about half as stupid as one has to be to harvest it.
* wolfie ponders how many debianites it takes to screw in a lightbulb <Viiru> wolfie: Somewhere around 600? One screw's the bulb, and the rest\nflame him for doing it wrong. <part> wolfie: is the bulb free software? <Tv> Can we vote on whether to screw it or not?
<Mercury> LordHavoc: The reason why GL has overdraw is because it is only\nusing HALF of the system they designed for vis. <Mercury> LordHavoc: Shooting itself in the foot. * Dabb looks at all those bullet holes in his shoes - damn, lots :)
<Dabb> hehe, I really hate bug reports which are like calling fire\ndepartment and saying: "There is fire here, come!" :) <Dabb> (and hanging up) * Dabb kills off dozen bug reports.
<xtifr> wow, I think I just used libtool to solve a problem -- somebody\nhelp me! :> <luca> xtifr, STEP AWAY FROM THE KEYBOARD
<mao> why do they insist on ading -Werror... <Misty-chan> Mesa would not compile out of the box if it were done by you\nguys ;) <knghtbrd> Uh, Mesa DOESN'T compile out of the box most of the time.
<Deek> nopcode: No, it isn't. Win32 lacks the equivalent of fork(). <Knghtbrd> Deek: windoze is not meant for people who should have access to\nsharp objects, hence no fork() <Knghtbrd> instead, you must rely on spoon()
<Knghtbrd> This font is starting to come out very nicely <stu> Knghtbrd: oh dear, are you hacking up another quake font in vi? :)
<pv2b> oh, besides, whats the best approach if i want to make a Quake\nlevel designed from an existing building? <Knghtbrd> Get a floorplan of Brian's office?  =) <pv2b> Knghtbrd: im considering my school. <Knghtbrd> Oh great <Knghtbrd> That's ALL we need
<knghtbrd> Windoze CEMeNT: Now with CrackGuard(TM)!  Never worry about\nunsightly cracks in Windoze CEMeNT again!  CrackGuard(TM) is\nso powerful that the entire thing will crumble before it will\ncrack.  Order your $200 upgrade version today!
<doogie> Culus: my bug with openssh appears to be fixed in 2.5.2, but\nmaster runs 2.3.0 <Culus> Don't even start <doogie> I just did. <Culus> You guys are going to drive me to build a huge giant robot and\ndestroy all of texas, aren't you?
<shader> whats wrong with rjing? <Rhamphoryncus> it's lame :P <Rhamphoryncus> it should NOT be possible <Rhamphoryncus> shoving a grenade up your ass and using it as rocket\npropelant shouldn't be a viable technique :P
* Equivalent code is available from RSA Data Security, Inc.\n* This code has been tested against that, and is equivalent,\n* except that you don't need to include two pages of legalese\n* with every copy.\n-- public domain MD5 source
* knghtbrd is gone - zzz - messages will be snapped like wet towels at all\nof the people who have stolen the trademark knghtbrd away message <Coderjoe> ack * Coderjoe prepares to defend himself from wet messages
Never underestimate the power of somebody with source code, a text editor, and the willingness to totally hose their system.\n-- Rob Landley <telomerase@yahoo.com>
"So, will the Andover party have a cash bar?" "No, there's free beer." "Uh-oh, Stallman's gonna be pissed..."\n-- overheard at the Bazaar, 1999
<Addi> Alter.net seems to have replaced one of its router with a zucchini.
<Mercury> Someone fix it. <Despair> committed <Knghtbrd> Despair: Mercury? <Despair> Knghtbrd: he's tired, made a mistake, wanted someone to undo it. <Knghtbrd> Despair: so you had him committed? <Despair> Knghtbrd: well, dedicated anyways.
The deafening silence taught me not to ask a bunch of geeks for advice from their girlfriends
"What are we going to do tonight, Bill?" "Same thing we do every night Steve, try to take over the world!"
<knghtbrd> *sigh*  My todo list is like the fucking energizer bunny <knghtbrd> It keeps growing and growing and growing and ...
<Deek> That reminds me, we'll need to buy a chainsaw for the office. "In\ncase of emergency, break glass"
<knghtbrd> He's a about half the size of the others. <knghtbrd> But he's got a chainsaw.
<Knghtbrd> It is when the example source won't compile ... <``Erik> then you fucked something up <Knghtbrd> Nope, I followed their instructions <``Erik> that may've been your problem :}
<Deek> "I keep my personal gpg data in a locked, lead safe in a vault\nguarded by angry rednecks and their dawgs.  Trespassers will be\nviolated, and all that..."
<ExMachina> glQuakeIIIRendererMode(GL_TRUE) <Knghtbrd> ExMachina: isn't that part of the extension which provides\nglDriverBugs(GL_FALSE); ? <Siigron> Knghtbrd: no, glDriverBugs() is part of EXT_help_me. <Siigron> which also contains glMakeItWork(GL_PLEASE);
<``Erik> 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 is a big number
<Xavvy> is that really knghtbrd? <Knghtbrd> No, I'm an EVIL IMPOSTOR! <Knghtbrd> An evil impostor who LIKES HYBRID! <Xavvy> haha <Xavvy> ok, it's him :P
<Elric> no BSD fans ? <EvilTypeGuy> Elric: it's hard to be a gamer and a bsd fan :p
<Marticus> There's too much blood in my caffeine system.
<SirDibos> Culus: are you awake? <Culus> no
<wli> Yeah, I looked at esd and it looked like the kind of C code that an\nex-JOVIAL/Algol '60 coder who had spent the last 20 years bouncing\nbetween Fortran-IV and Fortran '77 would write.
<nonlinear> .net is microsofts perverted version of a java networked\nenvironment uglified for windows-specific crap
<Mercury> LordHavoc: I'm already insane. <Coderjoe> damn straight. or curvy, crooked, or what have you
Unix is mature OS, windows is still in diapers and they smell badly.\n-- Rafael Skodlar <raffi@linwin.com>
<Midgar> From all the sterotypes about Aussies, I figure you guys are\nreally tough. <Midgar> ;p <krusto> we'll throw koala's at you
<calc> Knghtbrd: irc doesn't compile c code very well ;)
<robert> i understand there are some reasonable limits to free speech in\namerica, for example I cannot scream Fire into a crowded theatre\n.. But can i scream fire into a theatre with only 5 or 6 poeple\nin it ?
<aav> coffee on an empty stomach is pretty nasy <knghtbrd> aav: time to run to the vending machine for cheetos <aav> cheetos? :)
<f00Dave> Look, rejects, this is #OpenGL, not #GEEKSEX.
* TwingyAFK is shopping for 17" flat panel * aav sells TwingyAFK a piece of plywood
<knghtbrd> add a GF2/3, a sizable hard drive, and a 15" flat panel and\nyou've got a pretty damned portable machine. <Coderjoe> a GeForce Two-Thirds? <knghtbrd> Coderjoe: yes, a GeForce two-thirds, ie, any card from ATI.
<knghtbrd> Nintendo Declares GCN Most Popular Console Ever <knghtbrd> Who are they kidding? <Mercury> knghtbrd: Stock holders?
<LordHavoc> the majority of windoze artists do not have the ability to\nsave xpm <Mercury> LordHavoc: They don't have notepad? *G,D&R*
Linux supports the notion of a command line or a shell for the same reason that only children read books with only pictures in them. Language, be it English or something else, is the only tool flexible enough to accomplish a sufficiently broad range of tasks.\n-- Bill Garrett
## Signoff: insurgent (razzin' frazzin' motherfu... stupid directx...)
<krogoth> Kgnghtbrd: I wouldn't kow, I see no need for a spellchecker yet <Knghtbrd> you were saying?
<Knghtbrd> I'd better put the incriminating stuff into code:  ahfuiovka\nikperoa edfr ade 9 enbuw ejasxleme ka iena df4mesa <Knghtbrd> If you can decrypt that, you're a better cryptographer than I\nam.  =)
<rcw> liiwi: printk("CPU0 on fire\n");
<Electro> my computer was once one of the building blocks of a great\npyramid
NOTICE: anyone seen smoking will be assumed to be on fire and will be\nsummarily put out.
<markm> c++: the power, elegance and simplicity of a hand grenade
<knghtbrd> but one sort per tab and none per list is arguably better than\nO(n + n**2) per tab and O(n**2) per list. <knghtbrd> OMG, someone shoot me. <Coderjoe2> ? <knghtbrd> I can't believe I just used the big goose-egg to explain why my\nway is probably best in the long run.
<hoponpop> my program works if i take out the bugs.
<DannyS> Hit the monkey to win $20(*)! * knghtbrd gets out his mallet. * knghtbrd plants it firmly on DannyS' head. * knghtbrd will take his $20 now.  =D
<gholam> well I'm impressed <gholam> win98 managed to crash X from within vmware. * gholam applauds.
Libtool shared library portability is only slightly more believable than perpetual motion machines.  Especially on AIX :)."\n-- David Leimbach
<Overfiend> this is the New Overfiend, preacher of Love and Tolerance
<liiwi> so, what's the official way to get buildd to retry a package? prod\nit with a stick? <Joey> prod neuro <liiwi> with a stick? <Joey> yes.
<Knghtbrd> "... you will more than likely see all kinds of compiler\nwarnings scrolling by on the screen. These are normal and can\nbe safely ignored." <LordHavoc> Knghtbrd: is that a note attached to some M$ code? <Knghtbrd> No, it's a note about a bunch of GNU stuff.
<Hydroxide> knightbrd: from knightbrd.brain import * :) <knghtbrd> Oh gods if it were that easy .. <knghtbrd> from carmack.brain import OpenGL
<LIM> mmmm, multitextured donuts.... <knghtbrd> LIM: with fruit filling? <LIM> knghtbrd: chocolate cream...
<StevenK> You're rewriting parts of Quake in *Python*? <knghtbrd> MUAHAHAHA
## a_nick (nobody@c213-89-87-111.cm-upc.chello.se) has joined #python <a_nick> how do i add a new key to a dictionary? <a_nick> nm <dash> heh :) <dash> behold the problem-solving power of #python.
<Intention> "It's classic percolate-up economics, recognizing that money\nis like manure: It works best if you spread it around." <Knghtbrd> Intention: Carter's correlation: People with lots of either\nusually smell funny <Intention> Knghtbrd: You SO win.
